Beautiful, Beautiful Dalit Men…

For die-hard fans of Arundhati Roy’s The God of Small Things, here’s a captivating interview with her. She is, as always, at her best. And do read the rest of the journal too, put together by students of EFL-U, it gives a lot of food for thought.

But in my blog, since the flavour of the month seems to be Kerala and caste, I will just make use of an interview excerpt:

Having said that, in Kerala, Dalit men labour bare-bodied. In that parochial, sexually inhibited community, you see bare, male Dalit bodies all the time. They are beautiful (because they are formed by labour, not in gymnasiums) But to upper caste people, men as well as women, those bodies don’t exist. They are no threat to anybody. They don’t see Dalits as physical, leave alone sexual beings. It’s as though in that society caste-prejudice overcomes human biology and desire. (Girls without dowry will remain unmarried and will even commit suicide rather than marry out of caste) {emphasis added)

Dalit men are no doubt dashing… but there was a time when they were considered dangerous. Today Roy says, “They are no threat to anybody” but there was a time when they were considered terror.

(I learnt a lot about this when I was researching for the Ayyankali book, but right here, I will just make use of research articles on the web to tell you the story).

“Frighten Women” Days and terror from the Pulayas

To still the guilty conscience of the oppressors, a custom was in vogue by which Pulayas were given a chance to challenge the dominance of high caste landlords. It was supposed to recompense the cruelties inflicted on them all the year round. This custom was called Pulaped, that is, terror from the Pulayas. On a few days of the year, Pulayas were granted the “right” to “frighten” and to pollute high caste women who were moving around alone without a male escort.

How, why, where, what, when, whom?

Barbosa, a traveller from Portugal has recorded about Pulaya Scare in 1517 AD. In some months each year, Pulayas try to touch as many Nair women as possible. Nairs made efforts to prevent trouble for their women. Still the Pulayas would hide outside Nair houses at sundown. Once they touch a woman, she would shout out the news and go away with the Pulaya who touched her. If she comes back, she would bring ‘bhrasht’ to rest of the family, it was believed. Even if a Pulaya touched the woman with a stick or threw a stone on her, she went with that Pulaya. The Nair women who were afraid of their life or feared being sold also succumbed voluntarily to Pulaya men.

Dr Chelanattu Achutha Menon records thus: “Once a year the ‘low’ are given permission of the paths and a kind of freedom in small temples during Pooram festival and ‘Velakali’ season. They can bathe in the upper caste ponds, enter the temples and offer ‘archana’. They can touch any woman they see. The women had to go with the ‘low’ man who touched her. She was not to return back. The rules applied only for those outside their homes. Those in the homes were not bothered. These days of freedom for the low were announced by drummers in advance to the populace. “Those who donot want to face the consequenses of this display of freedom may stay home,” was also announced in advance. Depending on the majority ‘low’ community of the area, the appellation ‘Pulaya Scare’ and ‘Paraya Scare’ were applied.

“An upper caste woman who wanted to avoid being victimised could safely go any where and any time of the day or night with a male child of more than 3 years; or she could touch a male Palm tree when in temple. Only those who wanted to be touched that went out on their own on ‘scare’ days. If the touched woman is pregnant, she will stay away from her kin. If the child born is a boy, she will be taken back. If it is a girl, the woman goes with the Pulaya. Initially the Pulayas may have been encouraged to take women who had no males to support them.

And the story of how it was put to an end.

“The ‘scares’ were ended in Malabar during British rule. But it was banned in Travancore in 1695 AD by Unny Kerala Varma. The proclamation was carved on a rock on the roadside of Thiruvithamkode of Padmanabhapuram taluk. Padmanabhapuram was the second capital of the state.The record of the order is kept in the archeological museum of Padmanabhapuram. The gist of that order written in Tamil and mix of Tamil and Malayalam comprising of 106 lines is as follows: “…If ‘Pulaya Scare’ is practised in my kingdom, the Pulayas, their women and children, including pregnant women will be destroyed. Those women who have been affected may be relieved of their blemish if they have a ritual cleansing bath. And, any one who defaces the rock edict will get the same punishment as the one who kills a black cow on the shores of River Ganga.”

Has it been portrayed in fiction? Yes… Look here. Fear of Pulayas is a short-story by NS Madhavan of how a Pulayar’s “forbidden touch” redeems a ‘upper’-caste widow.

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43 thoughts on “Beautiful, Beautiful Dalit Men…

  1. eh says:

    holy ######
    disgusting !!!
    truth sounding stranger than fiction?

  2. BVN says:

    thats some flavour from Kerala :)

    i felt two things here, one – its 300 years back, so other than the shock value (like Brontosaurus was 50 feet tall), does it have any relevance (other than the fact that its a funny read)

    two – there are many subtle aspects of what you mentioned which has been handled down thru language and customs. we have a pretty nasty expletive in kerala “pulayadi mon” – which refers to someone who’s mother has done “pulayattom”. I dont know the exact root, but the expletive is a reference to some dalit custom. the expletive means something like a ho’s son.

    then we have been fed on the myth that the communists in kerala are led by the nairs and the martyrs have mostly been ezhavas. both these groups together form the caste hindus pretty much. well my point…yeah the Dalits…it seems of the 70 martyr’s of the communists agraian struggle about 50+ were Dalits (and if i didn’t know this till now, chance is that nobody knows)

    and yeah seems arnd 70% of the dalit vote goes to CPM, but when a dalit is made a minister its always like some major favour. (like oh yeah…we have to make one of those reserved gentlemen ministers right?)

    enough rambling :)

  3. eh.. i agree with ya… it is disgusting.

    bvn, thanks for coming here after a looooooooooooooooong time.
    i will answer to you.. one, it’s a few hundred years back, so the shock value isn’t there. but, while the height of the Brontosaurus doesn’t affect day-to-day life (and hence has no relevance), caste and sexuality do. So, history does have relevance. Like, why do eloping inter-caste lovers have to pay with their life in India? That surely means there’s a story behind all this social censure, and knowing that can equip us to fight with present-day prejudices that are actually rooted in the past.

    then, thank you so much for sharing about this example of how language and customs encode history. this is true even in tamil.. by the way, what does ottam mean in malayalam.. in tamil it means running away, eloping, so perhaps.. would it mean a woman who has eloped with a dalit? I don’t know, that’s why the question. Then, it could fit in with the custom detailed here.

    and yes, i fully agree with your final point too… in fact the first agrarian strike in the history of the world was organized by Ayyankali (see my other post)… :-) thanks for giving the stats, because I was in the blind. CPM and Dalits? Isn’t that a separate story altogether. There’s so much to say.
    :D

  4. BVN says:

    its “aattam”…which means swaying, dance etc

  5. First, i wonder why a woman of an upper caste would want to be touched (the muscular male body hardly seems to be an advertisement to being touched)…

    Second, how did the upper caste men even uphold this tradition.

    Its kinda sickening in a way especially when it comes to think of the difficulties we have in protecting our women even now a days in the streets of kerala. I think of the hard time I have when I take my mother, my sister or my girl out and especially in the public buses or while walking on the roads. Some men like to exercise their power over women by shoving, pushing, rubbing, brushing, nudging, etc…

    I can imagine the guys of the upper caste having a real hard time on that day… ha ha…

    In a way its still not over in kerala…. still takes place in one form or the other…

    Nice thought provoking, rather sickening article though

    Cheers… Peace…

    • binoy says:

      if it was one day given for lower caste people (pulaped) out of 365 days , the upper cast men acted vice versa on left 364 days. is there any justification for that ??

  6. eh says:

    @ bvn i have heard that swear word in my colllege among my friends, didn’t know the exact meaning.

    this sounds too crazy.. How did the so called higher caste people ever allow something like this to their own women. this looks like an idea for some priest’s fantasy… and we have 3000+ years of history…
    its nauseating to think upto what kind of lengths their imagination would have gone.
    urgh…
    BTW where is vishal ?? :)

    @ meena
    yea too many tests . my friend says i have to see a psychiatrist :)
    why has your sister stopped blogging?

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  8. BVN, thanks for the clarification.

    eh, yes, even i am missing vishal. hope he stops by. ;-)

    “how did the ‘upper’ castes allow it to their own women?” most of the aspects of caste are played out on women (dalit or ‘upper’ caste), isn’t it. especially, if this was how cruel they were to their own women, imagine how cruel they must have been to Dalit women (they weren’t allowed to cover their bosoms, their ears were cut off if they didn’t wear stone ornaments (markers of caste identity), not to talk of sexual atrocities on them).

    my sis is into her m.c.a. and therefore writes only in other languages.

    Rufus, well, my only question is, “why wouldn’t a women of the upper caste want to be touched?” everyone is human, right? (and being a woman, i can’t say i don’t admire male bodies. when they are muscular, moreover.) i really can’t say why upper caste men upheld this tradition… but then, the practice was over-turned wasn’t it? and hefty penalties (such as the genocide of a particular caste that practiced the custom) were imposed, so it means they would have worked against it. historians however contend that sometimes the practice may have been voluntary… I think a quote up there says, “Women who feared for their life,or thought that they would be sold sucuumbed voluntarily.”

    @all, This post was essentially to highlight that caste-Hindus portrayed the Dalit male’s sexuality as a threat. It was incorporated into their popular beliefs. I wrote about this just to say that Dalit men were seen as sexual beings… and as a threat to the caste-Hindu women. Are they still seen that way today? Yes, from what I have perceived. Which is one of the reasons why language still continues to carry the kind of degradations BVN, eh have mentioned above. But Roy says, “they are no threat to anybody” — and I was not so comfortable with that part of her interview. To be sure of what the caste-Hindus think about Dalit male bodies, one has to enter their minds, or take a survey. Both of which is beyond me at this moment, and beyond my blog too..
    :)

  9. quoting my friend who didnt have the guts to state the obvious, “A dalit’s fantasy for a fucking wet dream”

    Pardon my language, i cannot duly express or communicate the comment without the appropriate words…

    Peace…

  10. @everyone:sorry i can’t participate in this… its too… forget it…

    jus think of the spouse of a man who looses her husband to a cute secretary. or the mother or a father of a daughter who gets pregnant when she was raped by someone.

    These are the images i got when i read this post. Sorry, i have a mother, sister and a fiance who I strive really hard to protect. But i would hate to something like that to happen to them.

    But to me it is really sickening… Sorry

  11. Linda says:

    “caste-Hindus portrayed the Dalit male’s sexuality as a threat. It was incorporated into their popular beliefs. I wrote about this just to say that Dalit men were seen as sexual beings… and as a threat to the caste-Hindu women. Are they still seen that way today? Yes, from what I have perceived.”

    amazing that the attitude still exists.

    it is very similar to attitudes in America, 50+ years ago or so (maybe not even that long ago), that black men were threats to all white women. many black men were lynched (hung by their necks from trees until dead) because of the white man’s fear that a black man only wanted a white woman. some people are still afraid of that sexuality.

  12. Rufus, I approved your comment for the sole reason that people should be exposed to want kind of sentiments abound when there is a discussion of caste. It would do a great deal of good if you stopped looking at women as the only people who need protection. If this post really sickens you, why were you not sickened by an earlier post where I described how Dalits in Kerala were considered untouchable/polluting ninety-six steps away from a Brahmin? Isn’t that equally sickening? Isn’t that dehumanizing? I don’t understand your analogy to rape and marriage as well.

    Linda, absolutely agree with you. “Some people are still afraid of that sexuality” — Yes…
    :D

  13. Whether u like it or not, India is not forward enough Meena. As a male it is one of my obvious duties to protect the women in my family.

    And I had an extended discussion about this last night. Its not the dalit I am against, but all retards who engage in this sort of behaviour.

    I am sorry if you don’t think women need protection, i have heard some of the most graphic realities of crimes committed against women. I know of a baby of the age of three who was raped by a security guard when she slipped away from her father. And many accounts of the like.

    Contrary to what you believe women need to protected and not over protected. I was out shopping with my mother recently in cochin, and there was this person who just nudged her in an act to violate her sexually. For godsakes doesnt he have a mother? or a sister?

    I am not against the dalit. We have the same kind of people in kerala. Who are pretty graphic about what they do.

    No, I haven’t read your article of the brahmin and the dalit. I will call discrimination as discrimination irrespective who it is committing it, whether a brahmin or a dalit or even George Bush. A crime is a crime.

  14. Meena,

    An extra marital affair is close to this. U say the women used to see the dalit as sexual beings. What makes a cute secretary any different? To the married husband she is a sexual being. I am just trying to make you look at this post from the outlook of the wife, who looses her husband for a one night stand or an affair.

    And the rape? How different is it when u have a daughter who is lost to an act of violation of her caste just because she is touched by a dalit. And how different is it from a daughter who is violated sexually through an act of rape and ultimately carrying the rapist’s child. I am asking u to put urself in the shoes of the parents.

    And when u see it this way. And when u are in such a position such an article will be sickening cause one cannot imagine such a thing happening to a loved one.

    I would have said the same thing if this happened to a dalit woman being violated by a brahmin and being forced into seclusion or alienation from the people who love her. A discrimination is discrimination. A crime is a crime irrespective of who commits it.

    Thats my stand…

  15. And u don have to acknowledge my post if u don want too… :)

    Peace

  16. eh says:

    Well, don’t gang up on my poor Friend, what can he do about stuff that happened 2 centuries ago…

    as long as there is an oppressor and the oppressed, these perceptions will remain, and not necessarily limited to caste but any system with a hierarchy.

    Once a year the ‘low’ are given permission of the paths and a kind of freedom in small temples during Pooram festival and ‘Velakali’ season. They can bathe in the upper caste ponds, enter the temples and offer ‘archana’.

    this system is despicable from any point of view, this is not a chance of freedom. This is more like appeasement, an incentive to keep the workforce in line.

    @meena
    BTW…the title of this post is in a way intimidating for some people…when associated with such an atrocity.

    not everybody has a weird sense of humour you know :)

  17. @eh, no, no, no.. the title wasn’t about what I was writing.

    it is about what Roy says, men are beautiful when their bodies are shaped by labour…
    :)

  18. eh says:

    @meena
    i kinda got that…

    @rufus
    told ya….

  19. @all,

    this post should be understod in the larger context of the place of women in Kerala society, the marriage laws, the problems that women faced there, and so on.

    and i have this feeling, that this system would have evolved possibly to grant sanction to what must have been practiced. It is not easy to imagine that someone came up with this idea and then others started following it. I feel it must have been a codification to perhaps ‘legalize’ or at least ‘explain’ inter-caste unions.

  20. The entire caste system was brought into place to dominate the dravidans, which most of our counter parts in the north will disagree and ruthlessly deny.

    I think it was more of an evolution than a sanction of power, it was generally accepted that it was unclean to be touched by a dalit. I feel this whole system of being touched by a dalit evolved from that rather than some brahmin proclaiming his power to do so… Eventually it developed into a threat for the upper classes… And later a problem…

    Shudd explain the inter caste marriages back in the old days, before the porteguese and british came in… ha ha… my friend who is a brahmin has green eyes, we pull his leg saying he is either british or portuguese… Being a brahmin he can’t stand that… A sick joke, but it definitely makes us laugh…

    Keep writing Meena… lets how often agree to disagree agreeably…

    Cheers

    • bhaskar says:

      See,this is not the problem of normal dalits,brahmins,etc.What if all these upper castes join hands and convert. Many dalits are also anti muslims , anti christians. Just see. I do not think it is a problem of the normal dalits, upper cates. They live peacefully. Its the problem of the elites.Leave alone good brahmin noneis a good sudra or anything. caste sysem does not men that somebody is superior or anything. aND WHY ITS PRESENT AMONG OTHER CULTERS ALSO. Many of rich lower castes,they avoid thier own persons.Dravidians are lso not indians entirely. And why some fair complexioned are sudras and dark ones brahmins also. There are many people of brahmin communities too converting to other castes due to poverty/other reasons.

  21. Rufus, I just think that the story of untouchability is much longer, and can’t be simplified here… I agree with you that “eventually it developed into a threat for the upper classes” But for whatever reasons the upper-castes did play up the threat? Why? After all, they did have state power totally with them? I think it was essentially to secure the consent of the caste-Hindus as a whole group that untouchability ought to exist.. And even these stories of ‘upper’ caste women and Dalit men, I have my own reservations. I have this vague feeling, that it wouldn’t have been greatly prevalent, and would have been constructed merely to put their women in place. Perhaps to drive home a lesson that if they thought of developing relations with Dalit men, they faced excommunication. I don’t know. All these can only be surmises. (Someday, I will get some books where this is written in detail and post it over here). I think the ‘upper’ castes have systematically portrayed dalit people as depraved, and their caste names have been made into cuss words…

    and then, i was laughing too.. about the brahmin friend with green eyes. we are a colonized people and we carry various genes. my dad’s eyes are brown to amber yellow, his sister’s are hazel, and his sister’s daughter’s are green… hmmm… i am the only one in the family who has black eyes…
    :)

  22. Vishal says:

    Meena, this time I wanted to watch it from sidelines….. but atlast though of intervening….

    Miserable Posts. common folks we are in 21st century.. The issues of dalits… brahmins… are issues for writers to write on some lazy afternoons… Arundhati Roy belongs to that breed. God for all wrong things… and talking about sexuality , its is with regards to man and women.. whats dalit and brahmins to do with it, I guess one likes to have a colured glass…with a cloured sense of view.

    and of course hi to the evolutionary being (eh)

  23. eh says:

    hi vishal :)

    Come on its history man…and as they say history repeats itself….so whats wrong in letting people know what happened before and what to prevent from happening again.
    coz i never knew….stuff like this happened.

  24. seshan says:

    this is seshan,i am studying b.tech in mech,iit madras(2nd sem),

    dear maam

    read ur book “touch”,and for an aspiring poet like me it was truely an inspiration,except the poem ‘my lover talks of rape’ ,its is really too bad(i mean too negative).

    Parts of history like the disgusting caste system,this post about the pulyas molesting women,are best forgoten.
    they may have been prevented if only human equality was practiced then,and a certain group of men were not isolated from the rest.

    I donot think women fall for muscular men,its the brain that matters.

    all my life i have been following a code,its simple enough,all men are equal,equally low.

    love

    seshan

  25. Shubashree says:

    Dear Meena,

    I’d like to respond to your little comment that you would post information about books that can describe the development of caste and brahminism (my terminology)in South-east asian politics. I know of one such excellent and very readable book on the history of India. It’s being published by Stree – Samya (streesamya@gmail.com Bhatkal and Sen, Calcutta), incidentally by another Kerala-born writer.

    In my experience, women don’t need protection; women benefit from support; and women will move on, anyway!

    Shubashree

  26. niramayi says:

    I feel it was a contrived situation to dispose the unwanted lot of women from the family .There was even the practice of selling the girls to other caste men by Namoothiri and Nair fathers . Girls were too expensive to be maintained if they were not married off. Especially in large families where they will be nothing other than a burden , this kind of customs gave them a free chance to get out to freedom or get rid of them

  27. niramayi says:

    I feel it was a contrived situation to dispose the unwanted lot of women from the family .There was even the practice of selling the girls to other caste men by Namoothiri and Nair fathers . Girls were too expensive to be maintained if they were not married off. Especially in large families where they will be nothing other than a burden , this kind of customs gave them a free chance to get out to freedom or get rid of them

    Niramayi

  28. ANILKUMAR K A says:

    hai……
    I belongs to kerala(pulaya)but now only i clarified ” PULAPED”.Thanks…I am a Dalith activist.studying MBA(Rural Project Management).I am expecting this type
    “Dalith touch”articles…

  29. raasan says:

    what a rubbish idea the primitive hindu ppl lived with.

  30. B F FIROS says:

    Let me quote from an article by alternative Kerala historian Dr M. S. Jayaprakash about this ‘Puleppedi.’ According to M.S, who has debunked many myths and lies perpetuated as historical truths by mainstream Kerala historians, this Puleppedi or ‘Pareppedi’ was nothing but a smart anecdote concocted by the so-called upper caste Nair men to escape from the ignominy of letting the world know that their women were sexually oppressed and that they were incapable of satisfying them.

    One doesn’t need to detail the cruel, inhuman and barbaric social system prevalent in those days in Kerala. These so-called low caste men and women were not even allowed to walk on roads where dogs roamed freely. They were dirty creatures or mere flies devoid of dignity and human rights. They were not even allowed to come in the sight of the Nairs and similar `upper’ caste people. They were forced to toil in the fields of upper caste landlords’ paddy fields as slaves.

    So considering this crazy social situation, can a person with a modicum of rudimentary sense of intelligence believe that the low caste men would have shown the temerity to come close to the women from the upper castes and touch them? These men wouldn’t even go nearer to them, let alone touch.

    The Nairs used to have as many wives as they wished. And naturally, their women were sexually oppressed. Enticed by these “beautiful bodies shaped by labour” these women were attracted to these low caste men. According to M.S., the Nairs and other upper caste men concocted this absurd story of ‘Puleppedi’ to tide over the ignominy of their women having relationships with those low caste men.

  31. AJITHA.S says:

    Hellooooo Ms. Meena,,,,
    Pls stop talking about this dalit and etc,,,,
    There is not any more untouchability
    This situation has changed in our country predominantly & so much so, there is a reverse castism is happening,,,,
    If you are looking at any publicity, start taking some other topic,
    May be you have read very few statics on the whole & the index about the happening. But you seem to be so shallow and superficial in your speech in neeya naana.
    You were quoting few instances which were completely irrelevant to the argument.
    Do you know what the burning issues in world other than your castism?
    Pls,,,,,world has changed, Do you know the number of MBC & BC & SCST who have benefitted & much more,
    U R NOT IN 1950s,,,,,

    • lenin says:

      I would like to reminisce on a question putforth to Dr.Kamal hassan relating to Global warming and do you know
      what his answer was..?

      He said let the fire burning in the every individual in the name of caste,creed be doused first and then lets talk more
      about Global warming…

      Yes,he is absolutely on bulls eye Ajitha…

      You will only know when how a dalit or dark skinned people (presumed to be lower caste as per varna shastra)
      is treated in a private organisation inclusive of MNC IT Companies.

      You know why the Great father of our country Bapu had the fire under the belly to topple the british government
      yes it was the incident of him being humiliated in the running train in South africa.

      The same holds good for any individual or precisedly to a dalit when he is ignored or made submisssive inspite of his
      impeccable talent and energy…

      If the So called people from highly graded catse are ready to serve Westerners with their royal salute ..
      why cant they show a miniscule respect and camaraderie(i meant whole heartedly and not sympathy) to their
      fellow country men even if they are dark skinned or so called Dalits.

      I assure you once the downtrodden dalits feel that they are whole heartedly accepted and genuinely on par
      with their economy when compared to their fore fathers…i swear in the name of the holy god… that
      the so called ignored,illiterated and unacceptables will write in their blood to cancel the so called
      allergetic term for few people called reservation.

      Once again the pinnacle of excrucitaing pain is being ignored as said by mother terasa…

      Hence, hope let there be equality and magnanimity sprawl in every nook of my country and then you
      shall hunt Meena for her support to the downtrodden.

      Once again god bless you Ajitha…

      Jai Bharath……..!

  32. Neethu Nallathambi says:

    Hellooooo Ms. Meena,,,,
    Pls stop talking about this dalit and etc,,,,
    There is not any more untouchability
    This situation has changed in our country predominantly & so much so, there is a reverse castism is happening,,,,
    If you are looking at any publicity, start taking some other topic,
    May be you have read very few statics on the whole & the index about the happening. But you seem to be so shallow and superficial in your speech in neeya naana.
    You were quoting few instances which were completely irrelevant to the argument.
    Do you know what the burning issues in world other than your castism?
    Pls,,,,,world has changed, Do you know the number of MBC & BC & SCST who have benefitted & much more,
    U R NOT IN 1950s,,,,,

  33. Dear Neethu Nallathambi (alias) Ajitha S…
    Thank you for the advice.. Next time, don’t hide behind these false names and identities. And read the newspaper everyday.

    • lenin says:

      Hi Meena,

      The Pain and blissful ness of an individual cannot be
      measured in others eyes…thats the reason why some people might hurt you for your voice for the downtrodden
      in the society…

      So keep the ebullience going…!
      God bless you..!

  34. ask.dr.sen says:

    dear meena
    i remember meeting you a charming damsel but with tremendous shock value- breathing fire and made of ice,
    a thinking girl with social vision.
    then dr velu gave me ‘your touch’ and i thoroughly loved “you too mariamma ”
    girl! you are enjoying life being a poet with unrestricted reins
    but after all these years remember that you could have been an acclaimed poet or a popular/notorious journalist.
    you have arrived been acknowledged and started a journey where is your focus ?what is your vision?
    remember a lot of youth keep following you and you need to feel responsible and emerge either as an author or poet or a leader
    motivate and inspire and start loving atleast your own tribe
    you love to declare that you are brutally caustic but remember with a razor sharp mind like yours supreme intellect ,gifted poetic talent and charming youth you need to go places
    at least i wish that you progress and glow like the full moon than a scorching sun though it lends light
    and i am afraid that you should not wax and wane in to a new moon with terrible moodswings

  35. vasu says:

    this is utter nonsense and not true. more of an imagined thing than a real thing. pulayas were often used by nairs for sorcery (odiyan) but not for polluting nair women. if at all, pulayas were the muscle men of the nairs, often used to do jobs such as killing (kollum-kolayum-ulla-tharavadu). and yes..it is quite true that nairs were in the lead for bringing in equalism in kerala. maybe because the younger generation of nairs were fed-up with the inequality being meted out to the lower caste and the downtrodden. another reason could be to find an escape route from ‘marumakkathayam’ where the property would go to the nephews and not the sons.

  36. vasu says:

    i have my own views about caste and the role played by the upper caste in leading the lower into freedom.

    we often criticise the british for all the ills they did to us. we always forget to thank them for making us a progressive country. indeed i do not find anything earth shaking that we ourselves did even after 60 years of independance. so stop blaming…you indians!

    dr b.r ambedkar would have remained a non-entity if not for his teacher, a brahmin named ambadekar who adopted this dalit boy. we forgot to thank that forward thinking brahmin!

    we often blame the congress for being a brahmin infested party. it should have been more so, when india got its independance. and yet they allowed a dalit to write the constitution of india! disadvantage upper caste? so you might argue that the britishers had a hand in that! well…we know very well how the britishers were made to eat out of indian upper caste hands. and so a dalit would have been insignificant unless it was a new movement brought in through the genuine efforts of the upper caste, or at least some of them? logically i do not understand why we keep on blaming upper castes for our own deficiencies?

    so you might think i am an upper caste…nay! i am a nair and therefore a shudra. but nairs did very well for themselves in kerala and became the single most powerful caste in that state. they were mainly warriors who were present in large numbers in every kerala army and thus they gained power of bargaining with the rulers.

    what do we have in india after 60 yrs of independance? a dacoit infested bihar? a trouble-torn up? a sathi infested rajasthan? and yet these jokers collectively rule the country, despite having nothing to contribute except gaalis in the rink.

  37. vasu says:

    what are we finding now? fodder scams and 2g scams, selling the country bit by bit, power politics, swiss accounts, free televisions, voting through arrack and drugs? all done by those who earned their freedom from oppressive upper castes! therefore, quit blaming. there is a saying in malayalam that if you put your hand in a pot of jaggery you can’t help licking..well..we aren’t finding lickers nowadays. we are finding a new breed of thieves who run away with the pot itself!

    in hinduism, i believe. and in re-birth. lord krishna was born as a yadava and we know krishna was vishnu incarnate. why then cannot an erring upper caste of yesteryears be reborn as a lower caste? if one believes in rebirths then how can one truly say he has been oppressed for 3500 years? in those many years he has taken at least 35 births, if not more. and in all these he has probably been born into all the castes.

  38. vasudev says:

    living in a make believe world is either a fool’s paradise or a mad man’s hell. you are not willing to face challenges thrown at you. you are a frightened soul. you now feel you took on too much, much more than you could handle. you are having misgivings. you are a woman and you know you are frightened about your future. if so, you shouldn’t be doing a man’s job.

    when i was younger than you, even though i was brought up like a prince, i worked for the upliftment of the downtrodden. as a boy of 10 i created history (unpleasant to my relatives of those days in the 60s) the history i created then was so bad that even servants of lower class refused to touch me. you know why? because i went and caught a ‘nayadi’ by his hand, pulled the reluctant frightened soul to our thravadu royal entrance and fed him there. it created the biggest uproar of those times, that one of the princes in a local princedom did the unthinkable. no servant would give me a bath and my relatives treated me like an outcast. finally it was only my mother who gave me a bath and ‘purified’ my body.

    in my engineering college, the famous rec calicut, i spent most of my time working with the tribals of wynad, educating them. during that time i had many of my elite and upper caste class mates working with those tribes as naxalites. i spent many a day in the forests, hiding away from the police since it was the emergency period of ’76. they could arrest anyone as a naxalite.

    i spend 10 days every year, even today, working with some of the tribals in managuru (ap). your corrupt and misled mind would refuse to believe this but those working there with the tribals and internationally renown professionals, engineers and doctors, who spend time living a tribal’s life, in mud huts without fan or ac, eating roots and rare rice but working in husband-wife pairs to bring progress to these tribals. do you want to get off your ac room and high chair and work along with us? let me know through my email. i will give you the mobile number of our team leader. ask your mentor illiah also to move his ass from hyderabad and start doing some work in the forests. anyone can bad mouth india and win a booker award or be published in photographs with some un wastrels but selfless community service is not a job where you get paid in dollars to bad mouth your country!

    so girlie…grow up and do something meaningful with your life instead of writing meaningless poems and bad short stories which have forewards from shady characters whom no one recognise in india. let me warn you..working amongst tribals is tough and for the sincere souls only. to your surprise you may find only upper caste volunteers there!

    good bye and continue to degrade your soul for only you ultimately would carry the burden of your guilt and sin.

  39. shibu paloden says:

    meena… (chera dynasty ) hence mane even today call to him selves as cheramar . they be live thy were once the royal blood line , later thy were made a low cast by higher like nambudiri’s and nairs.

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